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Ozzie
09-02-14, 09:57 PM
Ive been bleating on about this for months but this weekend the tear down began. 10 hours and the interior is out, doors off, trim off. Front end is nearly there. Im a roofer by trade, know very little about cars but have decided to give it a go myself. the only parts im not doing are 350 SBC engine rebuild (if anyone knows of someone that will do it for notes close to WR12, tell me!) and the re trim of the seats. I intend to do the rest my self. If you see anything I could improve or im open helpful criticism, then shout. I take most things on board! As you can see from the pic, I will use anything at hand. Scrap lead to make a tool to get the pesky clip off the door handles!! Not a great deal of rust found yet:D

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cptpugwash
09-02-14, 10:11 PM
whats your plans for this one ozzie

Ozzie
10-02-14, 10:11 AM
nothing to radical. Daily driver car, engine refreshed and stroked to 383. Get the matt black off and repaint, blue body, silver roof. Change front bench seat to 2 normal seats then make a centre consul to fit in stereo etc.

fad15
10-02-14, 05:59 PM
blue body, silver roof.

Nice:tup:

V8Devon
10-02-14, 07:05 PM
MJA automotive engineering in Bromsgrove know their way around sbc's.
Good luck with the build.

Ozzie
15-02-14, 04:41 PM
9 hours in and sanded one side and the roof. 2 miles of sandpaper used and 8 fingertips. Progress though.
Needed some sounds in the garage, ok a little obsessive!!
http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/6/2/62_52ff986a37255.jpg


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steve 5-6-7 & 62
15-02-14, 05:04 PM
http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/6/2/62_52ff9869c86fb.jpg


Tri Chevy club sticker :tup:

stilltrying
15-02-14, 06:27 PM
Can you not get the door handles and the screen trim off? would make life easier than trying to sand round them and slipping and scratching the damn things. Ive tried it myself and no matter how delicate I have been at some point I've slipped and then had to spend time making them good again. It would also mean that when you paint it shiney side up it would be neater than masking. Body looks to be in very good condition.:tup:

cptpugwash
15-02-14, 10:01 PM
looks quite solid for a car thats nearly 70 years old :tup:
not sure on the radio though :)

57peppershaker
15-02-14, 10:25 PM
Keep on it Ozzie, looks good so far.

Your car obviously didnt come via the Mavis (kin rusty) collection.

Ozzie
16-02-14, 12:36 AM
Yeah took the trim off now around window. Door handles are knackered anyways and I was to lazy to go inside and get the handles to raise windows to get to screws :slap: Only rust so far is bottom corners of all doors so very happy with that. I will take out the filler and lead them. Things are progressing nicely. Got an engine builder lined up. Looking to aim for 400bhp. Ideally I would like it back on the road in 81 days for Drayton Manor. Took her last year as a shed, this year stage 2 then next year finished. I wont rush the prep work though so if its not ready so be it. Old Chrome will remain on her as Im off to the states in August and will buy it when im there. Sanding by hand is boring though!!

fad15
16-02-14, 06:47 AM
Any reason you are not using DAs etc?

Ozzie
16-02-14, 09:32 AM
DA's?
I am sanding by hand as I didn't want to put to much heat into the metal. I also want to do as much as I can myself so its a car I ive done. Im not mechanically minded whatsoever so the engine will have to go off. I have also found by sanding the way I am a can feel every lump and bump so I should be able to get it nearly straight! I had quotes for blasting, paint, body work and all that but hey a little boredom and no fingers is ok. Im off again now to have another bash at it.

Torment
16-02-14, 11:48 AM
Get a da sander oz..It won't affect that thick tin your shells made of..

Ozzie
16-02-14, 03:19 PM
Im nearly there now, done other side today. Only bonnet and boot lid left to do. Found first bit of rot today, under the paint where the ali flashes go on to the passenger side. I think ive been very lucky:tup:

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hot rod trimmer
16-02-14, 06:05 PM
keep it up oz ............I feel your pain !!!!!!!!!! just cleared my nostrils of all the rust dust from the desoto .......... you will save elbow grease with a DA though

fad15
16-02-14, 06:45 PM
Mate got me an electric one (DA) at a boot sale for 10 quid. They retail at over 400 and its better than the air ones I have, worth keeping an eye out for. Im not a pro at paint but done enough in the past. Thing is with the first cut a DA will save you time. Then you can run your hands over the surface to find the bumps and dips.
Most seem to primer and then drop a guide coat on to find the small imperfections finishing by feel.
If you prefer to do it all by hand then thats the way to go.
G

stilltrying
16-02-14, 07:11 PM
A DA won't put enough heat into your tin unless you leave it one place for some considerable time which is not what you do, you keep moving with it. Certainly when you are final preparing then go by hand with guide coats etc. Nice work so far keep the boredom at bay and carry on.:tup:

Ozzie
16-02-14, 07:31 PM
Cheers guys, wish I had posted a "im getting ready to start" thread. Will buy a DA tomorrow, bit late for the sanding but as said will help at the primer stage. I saw the stone mason using one at work the other day and thought that would be a good tool to use. I am a doughnut!!

fad15
16-02-14, 08:17 PM
One thing I would suggest is to try and find one that has a plain disk, not a velcro one. The cost of velcro disk is just plain silly. Get self adhesive ones from fleabay in boxes of 100 for really good money.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=150mm+sanding+discs&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R1.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.X150 mm+sanding+discs+self+adhesive&_nkw=150mm+sanding+discs+self+adhesive&_sacat=0

take a look.

young-morris
16-02-14, 08:39 PM
I'm with the rub it by hand method. I didn't use a da. Spent ages rubbing it aswel but as you said, you feel every lump and bump

Ozzie
08-03-14, 04:57 PM
Hello all ;)
Been a bit slow on the updates as all it has been is sanding until today. Engine, not the usual way of removal though. We done Cotswold style!!
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Ozzie
08-03-14, 04:58 PM
Also got her out for a little sunshine

http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/6/2/62_531b4b06331d8.jpg

fad15
08-03-14, 05:01 PM
We done Cotswold style!!

And whats wrong with that???? works dont it?

If you can take a tip. Run over the whole body with 240, then 360 grit on a DA. Followed by 420 when you have felt the surface by hand. Only saying, thats all

Ozzie
08-03-14, 06:37 PM
definitely Fad. DA has been purchased for next stage!! thanks for the advice on the grade of grit though. Is it important to wet sand or can it be done dry?

fad15
08-03-14, 08:04 PM
Dry and change the disk often. When you look at them, if they have 'bobbles' of stuff on them.... put a new one on. Forget how often you have to change them as the costs of a few disks is nothing compared to the price of paint, these days. Also when you thinks its done and dusted, walk away and come back a day later and run your hand over it. Guarantee you will find stuff you missed.

Enjoy what you are doing, I did when things were simpler. Its a learning curve we all go through, and I think you are one of the guys who will suceed
Dont forget to stand back and look at the bits your not sure about, because when its in finished paint they will look at you for all time....
Had me Merlot and going for a snooooooze

Ozzie
09-03-14, 01:44 AM
I will succeed Fad. Ive had a few tonight now and did I discovered that the 350 SBC 4 bolt main I was sold is in fact a 305 2 bolt main. I don't do pissed off but tonight I am. I should have checked the casting numbers myself I suppose but hey ho...

Torment
09-03-14, 09:45 AM
On the plus side you have another 57..do you really need a 4 bolt block to go down the road..?

I would be happy with a 57 and an in line 6 if it meant me getting to drive a 57 on a daily basis.

Ozzie
11-03-14, 09:04 PM
I would draw the line at a 6 bit no I don't need a 4 bolt. Finally got some primer on tonight:tup:

Neil G
11-03-14, 09:27 PM
Oi,easy tiger..............
Some of us like a 6 ;)

Ozzie
11-03-14, 09:38 PM
I knew you would come along Neil :crazy:

Neil G
11-03-14, 09:52 PM
That's what us stalkers do...:mooooh:


Good luck sir and remember us Tri-Chevy guy's love pic's.(even if it is only a 4 door ;) )

JB Chevy
21-03-14, 10:52 AM
That's what us stalkers do...:mooooh:


Good luck sir and remember us Tri-Chevy guy's love pic's.(even if it is only a 4 door ;) )

Neil especially when it is a 4 door :tup:

John

stilltrying
21-03-14, 01:23 PM
Where the photo's?

As to engine removal tool, you are so sofisticated down your end, a telescopic handler in deed, we use the backacter of an old JCB, have to be very careful when going back in as the controls are, should be say, a bit tired now:lol: but still works.

Ozzie
22-03-14, 11:06 AM
Things came to an abrupt end. Needed new air lines for the compressor and they still haven't arrived. I have bit the bullet and commissioned Adam Sayers to build me a 350 SBC instead of throwing money at a 305 that I would never be 100% happy with. Ordered new bumper and headlight bezels through R and R Imports.
New engine :D

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cptpugwash
23-03-14, 02:51 PM
what are your plans for that 350 ozzie

Ozzie
30-03-14, 08:38 AM
Have know idea Cptn. Its in the safe hands of Adam Sayers. Ive given him a budget and he knows what I want. Basically, a reliable strong engine. I have no desire to go stupidly fast as 99% have the wife and kids in the car. The 1% of play time I want to be able to light up the tyres and smile. 350hp is the rough idea with loads of torque. Now the sun is out and its warm I will hopefully get the first coat of proper paint on today. She is in full primer at last. Will take some pics today.....

Ozzie
31-03-14, 05:57 PM
Well found some more bits I wasn't happy with so more sanding and more primer. Its still not 100% but ive decided to go for colour. I fear if I don't I will get bored and not finish her at all. If im not happy with the outcome I will start again in November and I should have more of a clue what Im doing and a fresh batch of enthusiasm. At least the engine bit will be done.

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Ozzie
31-03-14, 05:58 PM
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fad15
31-03-14, 06:41 PM
I really love these kind of pics. Got more atmosphere than Jupiter.

Mind you leaving your mobile on the boot may well produce a witness mark in years to come... Do we care. Not a JOT.

If im not happy with the outcome I will start again in November and I should have more of a clue what Im doing and a fresh batch of enthusiasm.

And that is a true hot rodder.

Ozzie
31-03-14, 07:06 PM
Showed the world my airtight, dust free spray booth. I was hoping to get a patent on the design :crazy:

Ozzie
03-04-14, 02:34 PM
Flames I said, how hard could it be I said. After having skinny scrawley lines, ive now got fatter scrawley lines, Its not as bad as it looks honest, and as Im the one driving her im happy with it. Cant believe I missed that dent though :grr:


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They where last nights effort

Now they look like this


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Ozzie
05-04-14, 08:38 AM
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My weekend will mostly consist of flatting and polishing!! Happy with my first attempt painting a car. Not show quality, obviously. Its cost me 300 to get to this stage so I wasn't expecting show quality. I painted the bumper as this one was shot and will do until my new one comes in from Russ Pepper.

cptpugwash
05-04-14, 07:28 PM
flying along there

motman
07-04-14, 01:46 PM
Are we gonna see it at Drayton or are ya taking the wagon?

Ozzie
07-04-14, 05:30 PM
Don't think im going to have the engine in time for Drayton mate :tdown:
Well I flatted and cut the paint, oh my days! Never again will I utter the words "how hard can it be" Im a positive person so thinking I have learnt so much by making mistakes I will be able to get a better finish over the winter. I am going to drive her as she is as that's why I bought her in the first place. I did consider starting over but then she would be off the road all year.... Pics in a bit.....

cptpugwash
07-04-14, 05:41 PM
least your giving it a go :tup:
wouldnt know were to start

Ozzie
07-04-14, 06:21 PM
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moparhemi345
14-04-14, 10:26 PM
Hey. fair play to you mate. :tup:

That's a big lump of metal to be doing by yourself.
Love the homemade sprayshed.

Ozzie
18-04-14, 09:13 AM
Well been a bit slow on the updates as its been mostly flatting and polishing. Engine could be back as soon as early next month. Next week going to start the interior. Carpet first, how hard can it be :slap:

hot rod trimmer
18-04-14, 05:16 PM
piece of piss :slap:

fad15
18-04-14, 05:30 PM
piece of piss :slap:


If its that easy I might have a go myself. Now wheres the gluuuuuu gunnnnn

Torment
18-04-14, 09:44 PM
If its that easy I might have a go myself. Now wheres the gluuuuuu gunnnnn

Good deals at carpet world...tube of sikaflex. ..beer....presto one top interior. ..

no sniffing the glue though. ..It could lead to drag racing.

hot rod trimmer
19-04-14, 07:59 AM
don't tell everyone my secret for motivation ..................its the only perk of the job I get , other than the owner of the DB9 im doing at the moment saying "if you fancy taking it out for a blast just carry on" RED RAG TO A BULL :D so I did ............... I gave it everything it had ................. I was impressed but ive been out in mark todds project GTO so DB9 felt a bit weak after that

Dr.Feelgood
20-04-14, 08:28 AM
least your giving it a go :tup:
wouldnt know were to start

ditto ... fair play for even trying ...
(left the '55 paint to a professional)

Ozzie
20-04-14, 10:54 AM
UPDATE: Im starting again. "if at first you don't succeed....." I will get the engine bay done and finished first so the new lump can go in. I had a unrealistic goal for Neils Nats. With hindsight, it was always going to looked rushed. New goal 57@57 or Whitby Kustom....

Ozzie
31-01-15, 03:15 PM
How time flies by. Its went absolutely nowhere, except for a yet another change! Looked good in the false light and in my head. In the garden not so!! After a few complications with the engine over the past year the ole girl has returned home with a newly built 350 cu. Plans now are to wait for warmer weather and change the colour again. Firecracker Blue all over with the possibility of scollops in gold, so its near reverse of our latest buy... What did you say Liam... She is going to be used mainly as a bracket gambler now

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Ozzie
31-01-15, 03:18 PM
http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/6/2/62_54ccf22fb91bd.jpg

The latest buy, other way round on the Chevy...maybe

cptpugwash
31-01-15, 09:42 PM
Is that one a Plymouth Fury Ozzie , looks a little like the one out of the Christien (not sure how to spell that one) film

ps hows that shed still standing :)

Ozzie
01-02-15, 10:29 AM
must tidy things up!! Fence is next doors and she wont go halves on sorting it out, shed is only propping half of it up! Plymouth Savoy Cpt. Idea was to clone Christine but just the sports trim is crazy bucks!!