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phunkie hiboy
04-09-14, 08:19 PM
Well here goes. Truck arrived from the docks on the back of Scotties hauler.

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At this point he mentioned to me that it had a problem with the steering, not much right hand lock and when you did the truck ground to a halt!!
More of that later, into the shop to list the things that I considered needed to be looked at/rectified to make the vehicle roadworthy.
So bearing in mind that the truck had been advertised as a daily driver and had been fitted a number of new parts, I figured that not too much was going to be required. It had, as new parts, rear wheel cylinders and brake shoes, rear shocks, complete duel exhausts, clutch, engine mounts, front shocks, disc brake kit, power steering kit, Holley and manifold (on the installed 283), wiring loom and fuse box kit. All these items looked as if they were thrown at the truck just before it was put in the container ( bare metal and no rust).
On a second hand vehicle of this age, no one’s looking for it to be absolutely perfect, but starting from the back …………….

Removing the rear drums, the right hand axle bearing seal was leaking badly (another thing Scotty mentioned).

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The wheel cylinders were leaking.

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The left hand rear part of the exhaust was hard up against the shock.

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Front propshaft uj had one circlip missing and the cup had moved outwards.

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Moving further forward, the engine mount fixings (studding with two nuts) were not even done up net alone tight.

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After removing the front wings, the steering problem was identified quite easily.
On right lock there was little more than ½ a turn at the steering wheel before the left road wheel contacted the steering box.

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The new steering shaft assembly was ok, but none of the grub screws/lock nuts were tight.

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It also looked as if there was a problem with front shock top mountings.

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This was traced to the repositioned top mounts (read holes drilled into the chassis) to make way for the steering box and disc brakes.
The centres of the mounting points for the shocks at normal ride height was 12 ½ inches and the centres on the shocks, fully collapsed, was 13 inches. This would mean that there was no suspension on the front (except for tyre flex) at all.
The chassis was also damaged where the top of the shock was trying to bend the mount and in doing so bent the chassis.
With the engine running, the clutch pedal was pulsing up and down, and juddered violently when you tried to pull away.
On to the inside, the new electrical loom was “installed” like a birds nest, with many cut ends just hanging there.

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After some lengthy discussions, it was decided to remove the beam axle complete and fit a Jag XJS clip. And with some invaluable help from Mark Cornish ( he did this conversion to his GMC 3100 truck a while ago) a clip was sauced.
Here’s the clip ready to go under the chassis.

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And here it is fitted ………..

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phunkie hiboy
04-09-14, 08:19 PM
The rear wheel cylinders and axle shaft bearing/seal were replaced, as was the propshaft uj. Found this bit of butchering on the prop though.

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The clutch was removed to discover that a new kit, inc bearing, had been fitted, leaving the excessively worn throwout bearing support tube, causing the problem with the clutch operation.

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Mark came to our aid once more with a second hand support tube. This was fitted and the clutch and gearbox refitted.
With the clip fitted, all the ball joints and shocks brake discs and pads were replaced.

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The truck was then put back on the floor at ride height and the anti roll bar links cut down, so that the bar sat level.

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A new Ididit column was fitted because the original had a lot of play in it and had been cut about to make it fit. This also required a new routing for the steering shaft.

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Which also required a rerouting of the left hand exhaust. The modification was also done at this time to the rear pipe to stop it touching the left hand rear shock.

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On to the inside, the new wiring loom needed some attention.

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Took a while to sort as it needed to be done all the way into and round the engine compartment. Whilst sorting the loom in the engine area, it was discovered that the alternator had bearing issues. This was rebuilt and refitted.
Now with the wiring sorted, the column was finally painted and installed.

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The removed front end body panels were then refitted.

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Finally the advertising plaques on the doors needed to go, but they’d been pop riveted on with large rivets. Holes were welded up and sanded filled and primed.

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Sorting out the patches of red oxide was the final thing. Sometime, fairly recently, someone had masked up the whole truck, lightly sanded the black and oxide paint, dents and chips and painted the whole truck in a couple of coats of clear. This was over parts that had obviously been polished with a silicone based product, so you can imagine the result. Still it probably made it shiny to sell!!
The areas for paint were masked, sand and a quick coat of taxi black spayed over them. Seems to match fairly well, for a temporary job.
Well that’s about it until tomorrow, got an MOT booked in the morning, so we’ll see what happens.

So you can see from this example it is always best to go and look at a car you're buying and not rely totally on the description of the vehicle by the seller.

Neil G
04-09-14, 09:18 PM
Bloody hell,whole lotta work then!!
Cheers for the pic's.Driving the truck every day must make you look forward to work Steve.

05-09-14, 05:04 AM
Great work but if that was sold by a trader as a daily driver then he should be strung up.
Enjoy it Steve!

I know the mechanical issues are what count but I still can't believe that somebody riveted those tin signs on there!

phunkie hiboy
05-09-14, 06:17 AM
if that was sold by a trader as a daily driver .

He's an English man as well!!

05-09-14, 07:49 AM
Thanks Steve, Neil, only do 60 miles a week so shouldn't be too bad on fuel.

Below is the reply to my original inquiry. A bit misleading !!.

hello mate here are the pictures of the 55 trk its on the button has been a daily driver a partial list of work done just recently , new intake & carb, new electronic dist, new clutch kit, new wiring harness, new interior,new power steering kit incl tie rods & idler arm, power disc brakes, new gas shocks, new door window seals, new gas tanks, sending unit if you need any more info or pictures let me know all the best ###.

05-09-14, 08:08 AM
Carefully worded I would say.

steve 5-6-7 & 62
05-09-14, 09:41 AM
Great end result, looks cool ! :)

phunkie hiboy
05-09-14, 04:47 PM
Truck's sold, but still on his web site at all the money $13500

Forgot about the fuel tank and sender, new tank (wrong one for that truck but fits), new sender but didn't bother to replace the float .....

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Still not the end of the world, replacement BMC one in brass from Moss, fits perfectly, £8.

Anyway, any one know what one of these is?

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Few trim bits back on and it's ready to go!!

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On to the next! :tup:

05-09-14, 06:48 PM
Top job :tup: cool truck too
Looks like that Jag crossmember fits a treat, you make it look easy

05-09-14, 06:53 PM
I especially liked the steering box mounting. Excellent engineering right there.

05-09-14, 08:51 PM
On right lock there was little more than ½ a turn at the steering wheel before the left road wheel contacted the steering box.

Clearly set up for oval racing, where you're mostly turning left. That's proper race optimisation by a real experienced engineer, there. :incheek:

JB Chevy
02-10-14, 08:16 PM
Great job sorting that truck, looks the bollox now too. It's probably a good job the steering ad suspension was crap as it probably would never have been as good as it is now.

Top job that man :tup:


phunkie hiboy
03-10-14, 10:23 PM
It's probably a good job the steering ad suspension was crap as it probably would never have been as good as it is now.

Ah, but it should have never been that bad in the first place!! either that or described more accurately.

06-10-14, 11:24 AM
:yeahthat: Philip

06-10-14, 05:32 PM
So much work in a short time. Enjoy, you deserve it.

29-10-14, 06:02 AM
hello its been awhile since i visited here , i recognize the truck since i,m the one who sold it to steve , it was indeed a daily driver for the guy i bought it from in chico ca i bought it right off the gas station forecourt ,while the guy was putting gas in it i spotted the for sale sign in the window while driving by , the steering box conversion is a complete kit that is sold by several truck aftermarket companies over here as a bolt on item , the parts stated in the ad as new were inew & the work was carried out somewhere in chico for the previous owner including the primer spots clearcoating & rivet on door signs, my ad was worded based on what i was told, what i saw when i bought it & the receipts i was shown at the time, therefore i dont see the ad as misleading or carefully worded, anyone who knows me or has bought from me will tell you if there is a problem with something bought from me i,ll do my best to put it right , however i hav,nt heard a word from steve negative or otherwise since the truck left here , this is the first i,m hearing of it , i agree the standard of work carried out over here for the most part is not always what we would expect in the uk , but having said that i,ve seen quite a few kerbside auto repairs shops over there too. i,ve been in business here in ca since 1980 during that time i,ve had the same phone # & same address , its not & has never been my intention to mislead anyone of knowingly make false claims to sell vehicles, steve if you are unhappy ,feel cheated or misled email me or call & i,ll be happy to try & sort it out with you RAY A in sf

10-11-14, 09:44 PM
Hi ray, as requested i have e-mailed you and you replied to the first one but not to the second one i sent you over a week ago.
I even resent it to you yesterday incase you didn't receive it the first time.
I'm sure you do come on this site now and again so hopefully you will see this.

Looking forward to hear from you within the next day or two. Steve in surrey.

16-11-14, 06:22 PM
steve if you are unhappy ,feel cheated or misled email me or call & i,ll be happy to try & sort it out with you RAY A in sf

Hello Ray, still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hemi Bucket
26-11-14, 09:52 PM
That steering box positioning actually made me laugh out loud, no mean feat as I'm a miserable bastard. Kit? My arse.

Top work Phunkie on getting the crap sorted.

phunkie hiboy
26-11-14, 10:11 PM
That steering box positioning actually made me laugh out loud, no mean feat as I'm a miserable bastard. Kit? My arse.

Yes Al, just 'cos you can buy a kit, it doesn't actually mean you should fit one.

phunkie hiboy
26-11-14, 10:13 PM
The shocks were the clincher. The only front suspension it would have had was the flex in the tyre walls. Don't think you would have to drive it too far to realise something was wrong!